With the texture and the detail added I now feel confident to add the sticky lips ability to the lips.
I'm not sure if I should combine the sticky lips blendshapes after the mouth blend shapes or not so I'll go through the supplied tutorial and ask for a suggestion~
(Way to high poly count error number 1)
(Low Poly Lips)
Above were some of My trail and errors on the lips, after talking to Dom and getting some of the tuts he used I finally was able to get a great map on a low poly model.
So look out lips I know what I'm doing now!